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Comics are stupid.

Posted by Emptygoddess - October 12th, 2008


I love comics. I love sequential art. If I could write comics for a living I would. I've tried, I have been told by a lot of form letters that I should keep trying though! So yes, I love comics. this does not however stop comics from being stupid. Very, very stupid.

They're horribly stupid. Mind numbingly, skin crawlingly, stupid. It's painful. It physically hurts. They get away with things that you'd look at a retarded five year old and scold them for even considering it decent storytelling.

People often complain about the constant resurrections. Resurrections? Back from the dead? That is the LEAST LAME thing in comics. You think you know what bad writing is? I'll show you bad writing.

Lets go over some of my favorite examples of comics and the brilliant plots they come up with.

Detective #328: A batman story. In this issue Alfred, his loyal and very alfredy man servant is killed by a falling boulder (the fate of all man servents). He pushed batman and robin out of the way and was crushed. Poor Alfred. A few issues later, somewhere in the 340's, 350's, I forget exactly when I don't have it on me. Alfred was revived by some scientist. But the attempt at bringing him back was um...... ALFRED BECAME A VILLAIN KNOWN AS THE OUTSIDER! With telekinesis!

By the end of the plotline Alfred was reverted back with no memory at all about what he had done.

While we're on the topic of batman, anyone who remembers bat mite knows just how stupid comics can be.

Lets see... batman stupidity... batman stupidity....

Ever heard of the villain known as CALENDAR MAN? A villain so stupid, so lame, that even batman fans consider him lame. And these are a group of people who think a guy who uses umbrellas, a guy who laughs alot, and a guy who asks questions, are good villains.

Calendar man, is a villain obsessed with calendars. and dates. Once he dressed up as Odin and shot a laser from his eye. Which would be cool, if he had a different name and didn't think committing crimes based on days of the week was a good idea.

Oh batman also was once unable to hit the penguins goons because they had air-conditioned suits. That shot out puffs of air that pushed his fist away whenever he tried.

On the marvel side of things...

The dark phoenix Saga: Widely considered a classic of comic storytelling. This was a long running plot through the x-men comics. Sometimes it's split up into two separate 'sagas' but for my purpose I'll run you through the whole thing.

Originally the phoenix, was not a separate entity, she simply WAS jean, at the peak of her power. From like comic rays in space she was momentarily all badasstastic and shiny. A BEING OF PURE THOUGHT! Then was the phoenix. She put away her powers to stay safe, mental blocks and stuff.

Then she was mind controlled by the white queen and mastermind. Making her believe she was living some past life. She joined the hellfire club. The x-men came to her rescue, got captured, and Cyclops (jean gray's true love) fought mastermind in a duel of the psychicness. Cyclops lost, and jean went all like....... dark phoenix.

She beat up the x-men, and created a hole in space and went to a distant galaxy and exploded a star. Killing BILLIONS. (not humans though. so it was okay) She gets attacked by aliens, she kills them, and everyone decides she's even more dangerous then galctus. Because apparently the dark phoenix could snuff out the universe.

Beast designs a device that can neutralize phoenix's power, because like, only beast, a genius blue guy on earth could do this. Not any of the space fairing super scientists fighting the phoenix out in space with their advanced technology (that would be crazy. HUMANS RULE!)

So the dark phoenix returns to earth, and is beaten up by her old friends. She came back to earth so this could happen. And Xavier, being the nice guy he is, helps her return to being not evil jean using his powerful mind whammies.

Then the aliens come and are like 'um... dark phoenix gotta die.' and the x-men are like 'die? come on. she just killed billions of people. who here hasn't done that at one time or another?' but the aliens would hear none of this and eventually everyone had a kung fu fight on the moon.

So then during the fight, everyone is all killed and stuff, and jean, goes all angry and goes phoenix again. You know, proving the aliens right. Then the aliens are like PLAN OMEGA. which involes destroying the solar system. which is crazy, I mean, come on, humans live in that solar system.

So the x-men, who I thought were dead but I guess were just sleeping, get ordered to attack the phoenix. Apparently fighting makes jean feel more like jean and she reverts to not crazy jean. Then she kills herself with a disintegration beam.

Later Cyclops decides that she must have been planning this sense they set foot on the moon. What with how common suicide on the moon was.

This wasn't the end though, oh no. oh my friends. There's more. I won't bore you with to many details, but lets just say that jean grey was actually on the bottom of the Jamaican bay, and the jean that had just committed suicide was a clone of evil superness. I think some kind of... metaphor is in there somewhere. For the fragility of life.

Admittedly, that's nothing compared to some of the brilliant gems Japan has given us.

The long running fan favorite, greatly love series one piece. Oh what a glorious time it is traveling the world as pirates, having adventures and super powers. That's pretty much the comic, pirates with super powers out on the ocean. People just love this comic.

But... where do they get these super powers? Why? many different locations and things? Lots of different wants? mutations? born with them? training?

Oh no, no, see, they get these super powers by eating a piece of devil fruit. If you eat it you gain a super power. Also, you gain the weakness of water.

That's right folks, it's a series set on the ocean where a random fruit gives you random super owners AND takes away your ability to swim. How great is that?

Other great comics everyone who loves to bash their heads against walls should read include...

The clone saga: Spiderman run, generally considered to have never happened in the marvel universe now. Has some fun stuff. it also has a skeleton inside a chimney stack with a Spiderman outfit.

The dark knight triumphs: The sequel to the dark knight returns, one of the better graphic novels ever written. This sequel is um.... go read it yourself. See what you think.

Dragon Ball: Turns out he's an alien.

Comics are stupid. Even alot of the best written stuff just has moments of pure laziness. Where it's okay to just do something that makes no sense. Why? because comic writers assume that comic readers don't care. Or will accept it.

We will. I mean, I'm being nice and just picking on the mainstream stuff. You should see some of the indy crap that gets critically acclaimed. XD It makes some of this look logical.

So go. Read comics. Enjoy comics. Love comics. And if you ever get a chance to write comics, just spend five minutes, and think it through. Does it make sense? Is it stupid? Do you feel bad now that you have realized how stupid it was?

Good.

Also, gritty, be careful of gritty. Just because someone kills someone that doesn't make your story 'gritty'. Gritty was big in the 80's, do you want to be like the 80's? Think about it.

And remember, all heroes can dodge as many bullets as the world has, but dart guns always find their mark! (because writers can't ever figure out good ways to knock heroes out.) Thus making the dart gun, the most powerful weapon! With knock out gas and electricity coming in second and third.

Personally I think calander man should be the villian of the next batman movie. If Christopher Nolan has any guts at all. DO IT! BE A MAN!

Love ya all.

bubye now.


Comments

comics (kah-mix) n. juxtaposed pictorial and other images in deliberate sequence

And I thought comics were always like that thing... that's on the side of streets. Yaknow... that water comes out of? You get a ticket if you park in front of them?

Yaknow. hospitals.

I would rather read a comic than read what you have typed just now..

So that must mean that this whole post is Mind Numbingly, skin crawlingly boring.

That's correlation without causation. My writing is mind numbingly skin crawling boring all on its own. Has nothing to do with comics.

CRAWLING IN MY SKINNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!@!

...bugs? fire? you'd probably want bugs crawling in your skin rather than fire. So I hope it is bugs.

wanna read an horrible comic??? read JUSTICE LEAGUE OF AMERICA: THE INJUSTICE LEAGUE, god!! i cant believe i waste $20 in that shit, the only good think was the cover art for Joker -,-!

Ah, but it taught you to be a more thrifty consumer. Moral learned!

Some comics are good, and others are bad.
There's never been a newspaper comics that's made me laugh.
I used to like SuperHero comic books, but I stopped reading them when I was 11.

Sorry if I get something wrong here, I didn't read the full blog because it's just as bad a s reading a bad comic ^^;

I would hope it was worse. I mean, at least comics have um.... well not always pretty, but they do always have art. a comic without art is just a very blank page.

I wonder if that would sell.

Civil War was good. So was Xombie.

And I read and enjoyed every comic I talked about. That doesn't mean they weren't stupid. (civil war... definitely stupid, xombie? Never read it)

if you like sequential art, you might like questionable content too

I always question the content.

Yet another excellent piece of writing from Emptygoddess.

Keep it up. I love reading these.

Really? i mean... really...? Huh. Okay. No one can stop you I guess.

You read ALL of that? I didn't even read all of it and i wrote it.

This person clearly does not understand that comics aren't real and that they don't follow real-world logic.

While comics aren't real, and reading sequential images does indeed suspend a person's disbelief somewhat. I still expect a coherent and well thought out story. The writer should not simply assume that I will accept and believe anything they have to say and should respect me as a reader. Instead comics are generally full of quick fixes and ill conceived concepts.

I don't expect comics to fallow real world logic. I don't expect movies, books, games, plays, and other works of fiction, to necessarily do that either. I do however dislike excusing comics simply because they are comics. I hold stories to a certain standard of not stupid.

A standard that I myself often don't even live up to.

Also If comics were real I would be TERRIFIED. I'd probably never stop screaming. That stuff is scary.

"Moral learned!"

bet i do it, now i gonna read the comics in Boarders before i buy it

and about Calendar man, jeez, you are right, he is stupid, even his name is stupid: Julian Gregory Day . Holiday was really better than him, CM says that because of him, he well be forgotten

"a comic without art is just a very blank page."

a good example is BATMAN: GOING SANE, the story was interesting, but the artwork is so lame that... well, try it by yourself

eh. Naw. thanks though.

I have to start reading Batman.

AIR CONDITIONED SUITS THAT DEFLECT PUNCHES.

It was admittedly awesome. Sadly I forget when that issue came out... late 60's maybe?

yes because superhero comics = all comics

Oh I'm sorry? did you want me to talk about some of the romance comics? The drama comics? westerns? Newspaper? Goth comics? Erotic? web? ect.

They are all for the most part pretty stupid. Even the ones that rock.

Next time I'll make sure to make fun of whatever your favorite sub-genera of comics is. Rather then pointing out the stupidness of the mainstream comics most people are familiar with and thus talking to as wide an audience as possible. Nitches. gotta fill nitches.

"Beast designs a device that can neutralize phoenix's power, because like, only beast, a genius blue guy on earth could do this. Not any of the space fairing super scientists fighting the phoenix out in space with their advanced technology (that would be crazy. HUMANS RULE!)"

You would have ridiculed the whole "power-neutralizing device" thing even if aliens had create the device, amirite?

You're right on several accounts, though.

At least if the aliens with the intergalactic civilization had made it, I could have accepted that though convenient, at least I mean, they have GIANT SPACESHIPS. Make sense they can make cool stuff.

but yes, I probably would have.

you waste to much of your life typing....

So do you. It's a race to use up all the letters first. and i'm ahead! AHA!

Wow. Honestly, I believe you when you say this. But think about this for a bit,
If the writers didn't use any slightly insane, crazy, or just plain retarded plot theory, device, or hole for their work, how would it be any different from anything else?
Hold on a sec on your retort though, I know you mean you're talking about when they're REALLY stupid, like....Any of the examples you mentioned, but only the really retarded ones. But hey, if Goku wasn't an alien, then how do you think the DB and on series would've gone? Come on, a regular human isn't that strong so if not the Saiyan race, would he be something like a super human? The result of super-human training(look up Riki-oh...fist of the north star.....oh god, so many others.)? Come on, that's been done like three brazillion times. but of course, there's not really a whole lot we can do that sounds logical....And actually create a decent plot/story.
I love comics. I really do. But not like marvel or any of those comics. No, I read comics like Dominic Deegan or Cyanide & Happiness. Web comics are awesome, they're free, and they're made of EVERYTHING. Like Cyanide.
It has pedophilia, Necrophilia, Misogyny, A Purple Shirted Eye-Stabber, Death, And everything from here to yonder. Did I mention Cyanide? That site fills up my soul with laughter. Dark, cynical, maniacal laughter.....but It feels great.
And yes, I know. I strayed so far from the main point, that I could point a revolver at my head and pull the trigger and yet hit the innocent bystander fifty paces away. But you see! It feels so good......I'm just sayin it for the sake of sayin. I'm ranting right now as it is anyway. So! How are you?

if you're going to commit suicide. Might as well take someone with you.

isn't comics the abbreviated term for co-ed mixers?

Yes.

Hey gess wut ah did. AH MAED A COMIC ABOUT HAO I BUTTFARTED IN JUR CERIEL.

Cool. Can i see it?

if you're gonna troll people by making sweeping generalizations on this site, you should have made a "cartoons are stupid" post instead.
still, you're pulling the 'i fly off the handle at everyone' angle very well.

8/10

It's alot more fun then hugging everyone. Eventually if you hug everyone, you get cooties. Eventually if you fly off the handle at everyone, you get... to duel someone in the middle of a war torn improvised ghetto.

Think about it. It's deep.

That's nothing, go read the invisibles :o

I can't read through something that's invisible. Don't be crazy.

I used to be ok with deaths and resurrections and all that. They didn't bother me if they were done with respect and if there was some sense of forethought involved with the decision that won't force a quick turn around.

They are the worst of the gimmicks now and death has actually been done to death. The writer tends to feel all full of himself for the murder and it often proves he's a hack who wants to spice things up the weirder things get. They then go to the mandatory stage where they push how the person is really dead and how they will never come back and how you should feel bad and in awe about it. They try desperately to make you think that when all it takes is a new team who wants the character back to erase it.

I'm not sure how to blame a story on one person with something like Marvel or DC since I think it's a team effort or a editorial dictatorship. However I would like to blame John Byrne in particular for bringing Jean Grey back in that way since he was the one who wrote that story. I mean her name is Phoenix. It was expected but what a dumb, sloppy way to do it.

The way she was brought back pretty much, It was like saying that it never really happened. The most important X-men story bar none (say what you want it was) and someone had to balls to say that about it. They could have easily brought her back with the knowledge of her own sacrifice intact.

Although later on, the phoenix's experiences were returned to her and even later still she learned to embrace them. It was pretty much retconned over the course of many painful years of trying to explain it. Jean was always Phoenix. There were just points in her resurrection where she wasn't sure and understandably didn't want any part of it.

That whole convoluted story by the way drove the Cyclops character bat shit insane as writers were struggling to make him seem like a decent guy for leaving his wife in favor of the resurrected Jean. This made him even more of a idiotic doushebag.

It's all irrelevant now anyway I suppose since he's banging the White Queen now and probably glad Jean died again. Part of Marvel's new policy that no superhero should be happily married or forever in love. Possibly influenced by Editor in Chief Joe Quesada's divorce. Ha.

I am surprised you sighted such an ancient story as that Detective comics one. There are way dumber things written today as Marvel in particular is completely out of control editorially speaking. Pick any "major event" in Spider-man's history since the clone saga. Do so with knowledge that things don't get better but spiral downward as it gets older and dies horribly. Except Aunt May of course who was saved from death, again when Peter made a deal with the devil ...

The best part is the dumber it is the more fans eat it up. It gets attention and it sells. I don't buy very much anymore. Only things I can tolerate. I'm not a masochist like poor delusional Spider-man readers who think it will get better.

Yes. But I pissed people off badly enough just insulting 30 year old stories. If I had insulted current stories, I would be dead right now. DEAD.

Probably inside out to. As that seems a particularly painful death.

Also, despite how stupid that alfred story is, i love it. It's amazing! everyone should read it XD.

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